By no means are we attempting to minimize an individual’s experience, but we are at a loss to understand why several employees who left our company as far back as 2016 would suddenly decide to begin posting negative comments now. We operate in an intensely competitive environment and attacks on social media/user forums have proven to be an effective way of tortiously interfering with someone’s business. The normal responses to this type of activity, such as litigation, are ineffective because of the time and cost involved and the inability for the truth to catch up with misinformation/disinformation.

Our company has an internal Human Resources Department and written policies regarding issues such as sexual harassment, intimidation or retaliation. Multiple women hold senior leadership roles throughout our organization, in addition to a diverse and inclusive global workforce.

Since its inception in 1999, we have employed more than 850 employees and interns. During this time our company has never been the subject of a complaint or litigation regarding these issues and has never been the subject of a complaint to the EEOC regarding sexual harassment. Additionally, we have no record of internal complaints by the employees who have been posting on these forums regarding their time with the company which ended years ago.

Any company, individual or organization can become the subject of an unfair or inaccurate attack on social media or these user forums. The attackers have no real fear of retribution and there is no third-party fact checking concerning their posts.
No organization is perfect, and we are certainly making every effort to ensure that our employees are aware of our policies and have multiple avenues to raise concerns.

THIS is what you guys have to say? Words cannot describe how disappointed I am.

in case it wasn’t clear, this is the exact thing we as a community are trying to achieve. interfering with a business built on harassment and misconduct is usually the right thing to do, no matter when allegations were made public.

Cant be. Has the title “official”. Titles can only be given out to regulars of by the mods. Also, the account has regular status and no posts. Would have to be a hacker if it is a troll.

https://www.heraldbanner.com/council-votes-to-approve-hangar-lease/article_0d0a7212-4471-11e4-b16e-172ec5af909e.html

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This response is horrific. You need to take responsibility for the problems in your company. Denying these clearly credible claims and gaslighting the brave people that have come forwards is despicable.

oh my god. i am out of likes but this picture sums up the entire situation. this is how our community controlled by a duopoly(RECF/IFI) is represented. there’s nothing to even do anymore. the company at the center of it is openly insubordinate and evasive. wouldn’t surprise me if tony wrote the OP.

Whatever PR firm wrote this, fire them immediately. They’re horrible.

Truly one of the worst corporate responses to a scandal of all time

As a guy who has been doing VRC and IQ for a while now, trusting VEX and IFI. I am disheartened after reading this response.

Huh, I wonder why?

Seriously, have you guys read any of the allegations against you?

I am extremely disponed with this response, there have been so many comments and stories from former IFI/VEX employees and all you have to say is that they are fake and that you have “policies” against them and that you have multiple women working at your company. This is a very bad response to a lot of comments and stories. I am very ashamed by this response and I hope whomever wrote this gets fired from their position.

Are you talking about @VEX_Robotics response or my responce?

The accusations against you specifically allege THAT YOUR HR DEPARTMENT IS COMPLICIT. Are you people daft?!??!

Good grief vex. Y’all shot yourself in the foot here. And then worked your way up to shooting yourself in the lungs. I don’t have words.

Is it too much to ask for for some competition products?!
A decent company to run and produce them?!
And for a not exorbitant price?

I can not voice my anger with words that are allowed on this fourm. I am incredibly disappointed in this response.

I just can’t. Calling the brave people speaking up “attackers”, disregarding their story. AND ITS MORE THAN ONE STORY BACKED UP BY MANY PEOPLE THATS WHAT FACT CHECKING IS!!!

These accusations are not “cancel culture” of any sorts, which is what you imply with your statement. These are backed up with REAL INFO that you can not simply just call it false information.

Please VEX, apologize and fix your mistakes.

Ah yes because there is policies against sexual harassments and you have women employed that completely negates everything that has been said. Many of the stuff involved young women who were in college and High school. But it is all good because you guys have policies against it so that means it can’t possible happen right? This holds the same energy as people who says racism in America can’t possible be a thing because we elected Barack Obama. weird analogy but that is what came to my head. I knew nothing you guys can say would make up for what has come to light but jesus you guys really made the worst possible response to this. Great work

This is frankly ridiculous. I was totally expecting a typical PR response, but this a whole new level of trash. And you guys have the audacity to straight up say that this is all some consiracy to destroy VEX. Dissapointing on so many levels.

absolutely disgusting, what more is there to say?

This response is the absolute worst case of gaslighting that I’ve ever seen. Whoever wrote this, shame on you.

This is really sad to see. I was expecting a better response when I saw what Dan said. Then there’s this? Speechless.

The reason, is because members of the FRC community began to learn about the toxic workplace at IFI. They learned this through Glassdoor reviews, which were only brought to light because someone on Chief Delphi had brought up several (valid) QC issues. This led to people discovering posts about QC issues on Glassdoor, which led to the discovery of posts detailing the toxic workplace at IFI.

The discussion that ensued gave former employees a platform to discuss their own experiences. Now I cannot speak for them and why this was not brought up earlier, but for now I can only assume they did so to corroborate the Glassdoor reviews. It seems like it became the right time and place to discuss their experiences. As more and more people began to talk about their experiences, this gave people the confidence to talk about experiences with former mentors/IFI personnel, with some being horrifyingly disturbing. This also spread over to this forum, as it also deals with IFI related content, with people coming forward about their own experiences with people in the VEX community. If you want to learn more (which I believe you should), there are several threads here that detail those experiences.

The fact that you have no clue as to why they are being discussed is frankly alarming. It shows that whoever has written/reviewed this post has not been keeping up with the Chief Delphi thread and is basically trying to save face with this pathetic excuse of a “response”. It shows they have little care about the events that have unfolded.

This quote is particularly alarming, as it shows VEX may be putting the allegations in question (and potentially denying them). It also shows they have yet to have taken the time to review them and verify their validity. I dearly hope IFI will take the careful time to review each and every one of them and ensure their underlying causes are dealt with, as we would hope any company would do.

TL;DR: Shame on whoever posted this “response” for being essentially in the dark on the events that have unfolded. We hoped for at least a decent response, and whatever the heck this was certainly is not it.

It has been happening for around 11 years by now, Vex/IFI just fix it not that hard, also just admit your mistake. Admitting solves some things rather than just saying there are attackers trying to attack us. “We are the victims”.

IFI to Blizzard: “Hold my beer”

He replied to me.

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It doesn’t help when your Human Resources managers are the ones being reported for sexual harassment in the first place

Thats it, no apology, no commitment to do better, and no acknowledgement of your wrongdoing? Just accusing your former employees, many of whom are pillars of this community, of libel, and essentially saying “shut up or I’ll sue you.”? This is beyond poor management of this issue.

Now heres a few more issues with your post:

This right here is the corporate equivalent of “I’m not racist, I have a black friend.”

You would know why this is the case if you had read @chuck.glick 's post more closely.

Writing these people who have come forward about the toxic work environment, many of whom are very well respected within the community, is not a winning strategy. These arent anonymous posters on 4chan making wild broad accusations. These are real people who have been active in the community for as long as there has really been a Vex community citing specific grievances.

rip vex, I’m honestly mind blown. I Didn’t think a company so involved in education could be subject to something like this.

Vex, you goofed up big time. Responding to these horrible accusations by saying it’s “cancel culture” is absolutely pathetic. Calling brave people who share their traumatic experiences “attackers” is one of the most disrespectful things you could do. Get yourselves together and fix this.

The fact that you gave this horrible of a statement to clear your non-existent conscious speaks volumes.

I, along with many other former employees could publish a novel on the sexual harassment, verbal harassment and overall toxic work environment we had to endure.
And what happened when complaints were made? It was swept under the big IFI rug, by executives and Human Resources. Not that the HR dept had much choice either… their career was at risk too by not defending their colleagues.

Your statement is trash, and shows exactly how you try to cover your ■■■… by doing nothing at all. I hope this opens eyes of all your partners & the appropriate action is taken to dispose of this behavior for good.

This is atrocious. This sounds like it came off some enraged perpetrator’s desk and got minimal edits from a complicit HR, and I’m willing to bet that’s exactly what happened.

https://www.chiefdelphi.com/t/ifi-vex-response/417791/81

Just linking notable posts from the chief delphi responses.

So vex, yall are straight up calling everyone who testified on this a liar?

This is disgusting. Do better.

This post was flagged by the community and is temporarily hidden.

While this topic is worthy of response, I would like to point out that @sidoti specifically said this:

What a wild turn of events, I really did get out at the right time.

Interesting to compare-and-contrast this response to how PROS, a community of volunteers, handled ousting one of their senior members.

What a disgraceful and utterly disgusting response this is to several reports of misconduct throughout the IFI/VEX organizational structure. For a company who’s mission statement is:

We create tools that educators and mentors will use to shape the learners of today into the problem solving leaders of tomorrow .

You sure are showing a great display of leadership to those who you wish to shape. You refuse to take responsibility for the rampant problems littered throughout your company and you attempt to attack those who have come out to speak of their situations.

The fact that some women hold leadership positions in the company does not discredit the harassment and misconduct experienced by other female employees, and all employees, for that matter.

It’s no wonder you haven’t received any complaints when the department responsible for handling said claims is complicit with these complaints and goes out of its way to silence those who attempt to speak out.

Are you serious? You’ve reduced the claims against you to simple attacks formulated by faceless attackers with some vendetta against you. You can’t even acknowledge a single one of the complaints.

You should be ashamed of this response. Whoever was responsible for the drafting and approval of this should be fired immedietly. It’s embarassing.

I’m going to be completely honest here. This stuff sucks, but what has truly inspired me is the VEX community rising up to fight this battle together. Ever since I saw the first complaint on the forum everyone seemed to be lifting each other up and mourning together. I am glad I can call this community my friends. Thank you all, I love each and every one of you, and this truly has inspired me and I hope this is put down in VEX history. We basically are all highschoolers, showing we can band together for a common goal and especially showing that we can team up against evil. Thank you for your time, and I hope we can get this sorted out.

Tony Norman’s Instagram page has been set to private.

Ever since I saw the first complaint on the forum everyone seemed to be lifting each other up and mourning together.

I don’t think mourning is the right word to use for this.

Treat forum members with respect… Unless they’re brave enough to call you out on your history of harassment, in which case call them liars out to ruin your company.

Tony, the only person destroying your company right now is you. And if this is making you feel bad, imagine how bad you made your employees feel.

Sorry, I guess the word i should have used was supporting

Love how this was posted from the generic “VEX_Robotics” account with no signature of who wrote it at the bottom. Great job taking accountability, we wouldn’t have expected anything less from you!

what do you mean its a corporate entity that means you can trust them

Tony Norman sits on the board of directors of the Crisis Center of Northeast Texas.

i wonder if terry jones is one of the off duty sheriffs at tony’ parties

vex getting ratio’d makes my day

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i have yet to introduce my own thoughts and feelings into this topic. after reading the multiple threads, allegations, after trying to understand why this company that always strives to bringing people together to is refusing to address this, is disappointing. i dont have much to say in any terms because im not the most intelligent when it comes to situations like this or how to address them. but, i walked into this year so excited to produce a competitive robot, one that i can be proud of, with the products from a company, i, used to love. we are all disappointed collectively, maybe even angry at them for disregarding peoples thoughts, feelings, emotions, allegations, and completely turning the situation around back on the people who were probably scared years ago. i dont know what to say anymore. this is my first and probably last post in any of the topics. i appreciate all of the community coming together and addressing this and fighting for what is correct. thank you everyone. it sparks hope for the next generation.

see that’s the funny thing, you can’t be disappointed if you already had poor expectations

I still was.

This is the least official official account I’ve ever seen.

Pro tip if a lawyer actually did write this: don’t tacitly imply that there would be retribution (read: retaliation) if employees made credible allegations of harassment while they were still at the company…

Wait, what if the person who wrote this also was a person involved in the harassment and other bad things and just wrote this so the could try to clear their name.

My brother in Christ you are doubling down on a one-way ticket to Hell.

This disappointment of a response sounds like it was written by an upset, drunk 6-year-old. Whoever wrote this needs to be gone from their job. This is outrageous to the vex AND First community, and many more. Fix it.

What’s that supposed to mean…?

this response was very disappointing and absolute bs I can not even begin to state my anger here with this reponce.

Ditto.

You are under heavy ABUSE allegations, and you give us a generic pastebin corporate response.
wow.
i- no, we expected something hearfelt and you shove us with the “We aren’t perfect” excuse.
honestly, i don’t know how this was under the covers for so long.

Hope you’re happy
add more kindling to the fire, see what that does.

This is ActiVision on steroids.

You’d think they’d be a little more careful anyway, considering that these are, as you put it, heavy abuse allegations, in an environment literally full of middle schoolers and high schoolers. It’s like Vex asked an AI to make their response, and it took the prompt as “Come up with the worse response possible.”

They better come up with something good because they are gonna have one hell of a job recovering after this one.

well said mi amigo.

yes they are really just digging a bigger hole for themselves in a flash flood

At this point, i’m waiting for the tax evasion + monopolizing + discrimination + any other offense you could imagine, because nothing would suprise me at this rate.

they pretty much have a monopoly on grade school robotics alongside FIRST

then again, who gives FRC contenders their parts?

most schools cant really afford FRC stuff that’s why they go with vex and Vrc. So that they can have their students still learn about robotics without having to pay so much for supplies. like my school…

The only downside to the pfp boycott is that you can’t immediately tell who’s typing lol

yea… too many pepole with same one gets a little bit confusing

They do have a monopoly on middle school, high school is with FIRST. I’m not sure what you mean by grade school because of me being dumb.

Them having a monopoly in Middle school robotics though is frieghtening, and as many more mention, a signle FIRST teams can cost up to 45k a year, my school barely gets 3k in funding.

grade school = K-12
though it’s mostly 6-12 for robotics cause 3-5 do IQ
hold on a minute…
Vex owns IQ.

yes you have a point that’s why most teams and schools will have no other choice to keep buying from vex for new parts or to just use what they already have but for new programs starting this is a lot harder to get the funding for stuff like Frc that’s why FRC is for more 6A schools that are in bigger cities that can afford It

First LEGO league competes with IQ, which is good, but it is also FIRST so there is nothing.

Because if I am correct from what I have seen, FIRST robotics also has afilliation with IFI, correct?

Literally every post here has gotten about 2 likes and well thought out ones get far more. Vex literally has 3 likes at the moment. The sincere and brutal ratio is incredible.

our middle schools dont have robotics at all

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yes it is lol because what they said was stupid and some corporate bs

The worst part about the Vex monopoly is the fact that their parts… how do I put this?

Got it. Their parts suck. Electronics are unreliable, it’s backed-up to saturn, and each robot costs more than a low-end car. They just did a recall on motors, right? (Or they didn’t, from what I’m seeing they’re asking their consumers to buy new parts instead of offering replacements.)

At my elementary school, we had FIRST LEGO LEAGUE, and that goes through 6th grade I believe. I head LEGO is discontinuing MINDSTORMS. This is bad news, because they were the one best competitor for elementary school and early middle school.

exactly with like how some people in chief Delphi were complaining about how the falcon 500s were always on backorder because there was no limit on how many you could order at a time so big teams with lots of money just ordered all of them and then they had performance issues. AND THEY WERE EXPENSIVE

I feel bad for the mod team lately, this site has been blowing up with post on post on post. They’ve been oddly quiet with everything going on. To any mods reading this, we appreciate your work. We aren’t going after you or anything you’ve done, we’re after the Vex company.

Thank you guys for keeping this place safe despite the circumstances!

yes we appreciate yalls work

This is true, we are grateful for all of the work and time you mods put into this. We know someone of you have families, and this mess is making you miss out on time with them.

We thank you Vex Forum Mods.

As you can imagine this is a difficult time for many people.

If I may ask you, and everyone else, to flag the things you find as a violation.
Please choose the “something else” option and give a brief description of what the violation is, that would help the moderation staff immensely right now.

Thank you. I know I speak for all of us when I say, we are trying our best.

Will do. I hope I speak on behalf of the forum when I say thank you for your service, and even more so, your leadership in a time like this.

Love you guys!

Completely disgusted.

There are no other words I have. Or wait… here are just a couple:

The incredible amount of disregard is completely astonishing. Instead of actually fixing the problem, you are too worried about covering up the issue and saving your company. Did you ever stop for a moment and think that if you actually fixed the problem instead of ignoring it, you wouldn’t have to worry about saving your company? Last time I checked, maybe start believing the words of your employees?

Tell me, why would someone post something negative about you without a reason for doing it? Not everything is a lie, and some things are true, and have been proven true. No need to keep ignoring it. You are actually causing more of a problem by looking down on victims just for exposing the inner, filthy, and disgusting workings of VEX and IFX. That is cruel, speaking against those who expose you and share the truth of what really goes on.

AGAIN, this has NOTHING to do with your competitors, or your competitive businesses. You literally stated that these that spoke out were YOUR employees, YOUR employees posting negative things and speaking out. Tell me, how does them being YOUR employees have to do with your competitors?

Almost ALL companies have this, but does that stop those companies from having issues like this? NO. NOT AT ALL. Other companies still have victims of sexual harassment, that’s inevitable. But allowing it to go on, even when the company knows about it, that’s up to the company. You made the decision to let it go on, you made the decision to do NOTHING but cover up your own mistakes you could have prevented.

I agree, having women in authoritative positions adds diversity and opens up another generation where women can flourish, just as much as men. But the thing that actually needs to be addressed, is PROTECTING these women, as well as HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE. Women are not fragile objects that need to be handled with care and exempt from the rules. This situation is exactly an example of this. Sure, women are more fragile in comparison to men, but that DOES NOT mean they are capable of doing things that are AGAINST a COMPANY POLICY or BASIC MORALS.

DURING THAT TIME. I’m sorry, but if you haven’t noticed, it isn’t ‘during that time’ anymore. We are in a whole new CENTURY, where things are very much DIFFERENT than they were before. And just because it hadn’t happened then, doesn’t mean that it CAN’T happen NOW. Please, wake up and smell the air of the new century. PLEASE.

ALSO, I don’t know if you have noticed, but it’s kinda HARD to have the courage to speak out, and this pressure and hate you are putting on these victims shows that. Putting yourself as the victim only makes people angrier, considering YOU are the culprit.

Look at your wording. Any CAN get attacked, but not all DO. You are robbing these victims of their voice, which is why it took so long for them to use it. You can’t blame this on some ‘internet scandal’ when it’s clearly NOT. The horrible actions of your employees, past or present, are disgusting and repulsive, and as such, those employees responsible should be held accountable for their actions, not let off with a warning why you ignore the problems at hand.

AGAIN, the WORDING. Calling them ‘attackers’ clearly puts you in a position that shows that YOU ARE TRYING TO PLAY THE VICTIM. Please listen: YOU ARE NOT A VICTIM. STOP ACTING LIKE IT.

(Also, whatever PR firm you had write this, man I feel sorry for them, because, with this message, their business is sure to be doomed.)

If you are so certain that you are the victim here, you might want to consider doing some litigation. Yes it will cost you time and money, but you are going to spend a lot of time on this issue. Also, you are going to lose a non-negligible amount of money due to consumers choosing not to buy from you.

I completely agree with this but they probably wont lose very much money at all as teams have to buy from vex to be able to compete and have to buy from vex to remain competitive and vex is basically the only competitive robotics program for MS and most teams that are already VRC wont spend the time and money to switch to FRC or FTC.

So maybe, proper investigations should be put in place?
Oh wait…

I forgot vex is scared of righting wrongs.

Don’t know where all that money I spent is either, buying 16 motors for an 8 motor robot because half of them will spontaneously break, dare I preach the idea that pockets might have a green tint over there.

That’s a cool fact, now what does that change? Using your demographic in senior leadership as a reason for innocence is sickening. I am an Asian high school senior, nothing would dig deeper into my stomach than if my school used me as a shield from accusations of racism within the walls. But I’ve made it to a top social hierarchy position so clearly everything is fine right?
Are these women just tokens to you?

You’re also saying that since I’ve haven’t been the victim of a racially motivated hate crime, it will never happen right? There’s no other way to read this.

I happen to believe criminals who premeditate crimes know the “policies” as well. I also happen to believe sexual harassment falls within the realm of “law” and not “policy”.

I am disappointed in you, however many “yous” there are that decided this was okay to write this post. This wasn’t even covering your butt, this was pretending nothing was happening.
When it was brought into question whether or not the LGBTQ+ community was safe in vex, Dan Mantz posted a response that left me shaking my head. He mentioned the issue without addressing and covered his butt. I thought that was as low as it got.

If you have the boldness to say these accusations may be fake, then prove it, investigate it and prove it before taunting the idea that nothing is wrong.

The community is not only disappointed in you, you are simply the disappointment. You let us down. You failed. You failed your staff and the community.
You had the highest opportunity to even pretend to do something and you couldn’t even do that. Instead you acted as if nothing is wrong.

You. Vex Robotics, you failed.

The "boycott vex? was recently nuked with response from the admins. I would like IFI to know that people will continue to talk about boycotting you on Discord and Chief Delphi. If you are so worried about people boycotting your products, maybe do something about the situation.

The boycott VEX thread was deleted by request from the OP.

All other flags that were given to that post were intentionally ignored to keep the post active.
I do not know why the OP wanted the topic deleted, but their request was the only reason that thread is gone.

If you wish to start the thread again, you have my express written permission.

Uh oh, I just created a topic about where to buy pneumatics without buying from Vex… that might be gone soon.

I would like to remind everyone participating in discussion here to consider the weight and importance of this topic. I’m seeing a lot of posts that are joking about the situation, and while ifi as a company is certainly seeming more and more like a joke, the subject matter here is not. Spamming posts and making jokes discredits the serious nature of this situation, and gives the impression of enjoying the chaos, which is not appropriate and is not helpful. Additionally, please take time to consider if what you are typing is helpful, accurate, and appropriate for the situation before hitting reply.

This is a very difficult time for vrc, and taking advantage (intentionally or not) of the circumstances to spam and meme about a serious topic is not helpful.

I log on once in a long while, and I see this. Such a, well, interesting statement, lets unpack it.

Hmmm, what do we have here? At first it seems like VEX doesn’t want to undermine past employees’ experiences, but then goes on to suggest there is misinformation that has spreaded. This directly undermines said employees’ experiences by calling into question what they went through. Most of what I have heard discussed online pertains to the CD & VF threads, so unless the employees are maliciously lying about experiences to undermine VEX as a company (which I think we all, except for some reason you @ VEX_Robotics, can say is not true), there is no reason to say there is truth that needs to be “unveiled” (because, spoiler alert, it already has).

If you read CD thread, you would know. If your HR department was competent at their job and logged reports instead of contributing to IFI workplace issue, you would know.

Just because you have policies, does not mean they are followed to greatest extent. That is like saying “My mom has a strict no sweets policy before bedtime, but sometimes my father allows be to have Oreo cookie & milk before sleeping”. If you had competent HR teams, there would be no discussion to be had here. End of story.

That’s same thing as me saying “I have Indian friend, no way I could be a racist” or “My cousin is bisexual, no way I could be homophobe.” Think of it this way: even if people are vegan, does not mean they are vegan 100% of the time. Some might have “cheat days” or might eat non-vegan food because they did not know it was not vegan. Although in this metaphor you would have known the food was not vegan, and knowingly (and openly to others) indulged in it to the disgust of those around you.

Again, a competent HR team would have forced you to tell a different story.

Employees who have come forth with allegations must have been to scared to lodge complaints over fear of job or perhaps potential promotion/favor with bosses. As told by former employee, one of worst sexual misconduct offenders was employee complaint reviewer. So lets say someone had a complaint to lodge against him, what do you think he would do? I think very much we can see what happened based on your statement above. For many, a toxic workplace brews complacency where rebellion can cost job or lead to living hell for remaining time working there. Especially if complaints are publicly shared with bioss and coworkers.

Yet again you call the complaints into question, as if you are unaware of the toxic workplace created and the validity of allegations raised. Also good to mention that’s not all are against IFI, and those that are not have been prove to have more evidence (as were online and involved traceable chats between offender and victim).

Yes, no org is perfect, but this is prime example of “know better do better”. If your head boss knew about the workplace environment he created, and knew of its wrongdoings, why didn’t he stop it? maybe that extra 1% equity and gun collection was enough to brew complicitness and complacency in mind. Sure, you are not only org to have this problem (look at Weinstein, Activision Blizzard, Jingdong, and the like), but you of all orgs was the last I expect to have it seeing as you primarily deal in educational sector. How would you like your kids to come home and say “the robots we built were partially designed from sexually and verbally abused/threatened employees”? How would you like it if you as a teacher had to make the tough decision to stop teaching robotics because parts company sets bad example for your students with workplace misconduct? Only this time you don’t have to imagine the hypothetical as your higher-ups have made it reality for over 1.1 million students and counting.

Overall you @VEX_Robotics have failed us as a community, and failed the swaths of employees, whether they came out or not, who had to suffer under your abusive management and workplace environment. What was once a dream for many robotics/engineering enjoyers and VRC/FRC/FTC alumni became a living nightmare, and for that I am truly aggrieved and crestfallen. You know, they say that sometimes shock leads to a loss of words, but in this case, all I can convey is my disappointment in not only situation that has come forth but also this disheartening and nonpurposive contemptible “statement” excuse of a “saving face” response.

What on EARTH were you thinking

I miss when this post had 143 likes.

time to get it back up

Has anybody found the “We didn’t start the fire” but vex?
Someone made it in one of these topics, and I feel like someone musical should sing it.

Pretty sure it’s somewhere in Dankest Vex Memes in the old Vex Forums.

on it

Check Dankest Vex Memes, the we didn’t start the fire parody is there.

Guys, the funny thing is, this started from someone complaining about faulty components made by vex

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Oh, that was me. It’s in vex memes, though i believe someone reuploaded it already

Yeah, I found it, uploaded it, then gave you credit

https://www.heraldbanner.com/news/local_news/norman-stepping-down-from-innovation-first/article_6962372a-71b8-11ed-b838-733a6c8a451e.amp.html

Welp. That was disappointing (but expected).

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wtf- many of the encounters directly involved him.

I was out of the country most of that time

Is this verifiable? I would think we should be able to look up his private jet’s movments and flight plan. Not really sure how to do this (or if its possible), but if anyone who knows a bit more wants to check that would be really nice of them